Thread:OBWforumsContentRevision/@comment-36965940-20200208202809/@comment-30654492-20200211201742

'It wasn't Tengen Toppa Lagann that destroyed the Anti-Spiral in the anime. It was just Lagann, but massively boosted by TTGL's absorption of the Infinity Big Bang Storm like GL was.'

The way the anime ended is generally different from the movie. We generally take the movie over the anime ending as it's the original envision and in the movie it's much different

Secondly, yeah, it would require a key because it's a very evident amp and if we treat it with different keys, then yeah, this can go through

'''If the problem is consistency, I don't see how that's a valid counter-argument, because I'm proposing that they should be High 2-A/High 1-C (based on the feats against the Anti-Spiral) in a Post-IBBS Absorption key separate to their standard ones, similarly to Gurren Lagann and Lagann. Which brings me to another thing I'd like to mention, I find it pretty arbitrary to say that TTGL, Gurren Lagann and Lagann all got empowered by the IBBS absorption, but Arc and Super Galaxy weren't. It doesn't really make sense, and I'm especially saying that in this case because they performed the brief feats that they did.'''

Nothing shows they got empowered by the IBBS and if you are going to use the fact they briefly held off a drill from Anti-Spiral, that's clearly dramatic effect and PIS. STTGL is made of Spiral Energy and the other accepted ships are shown to be empowered by The Drill. With those two mechs, nothing remotely suggests they are empowered by spiral energy to the degree as the other three

'''I don't see how little their interactions with the Anti-Spiral are matters, either. They legitimately tanked attacks from the Grand Zamboa in the anime, clearly sustained less damage than Gurren Lagann and Lagann, and they briefly held back the Anti-Spiral GDB in the movie and sustained mostly minor damage.'''

Because it's a lack of consistency, we don't rate things that rarely have much to go off of. We scale to STTGL to Anti-Spiral because it's clearly empowered and made of Spiral Energy and is a similar built to The Grand Zamboa. Additionally, Anti-Spiral's previous mech could only be contended with The Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagnn, so only it would scale to that (sans the ones intergrated into the Super Spiral Universe)

'Arc can't destroy an entire space-time continuum, yes, but I'm not arguing that it can to begin with. It hasn't demonstrated a feat on that scale, it only sent a mech through the fabric of space-time with sheer force, which'd be at a far lesser degree of High 2-A/High 1-C than normal, certainly not on the scale of the entire space-time continuum, but still a relevant 5 to 11-D scale. Also, I don't see how the latter part of your argument affects anything other than range. I can also use the same logic to debunk 5-A, by saying that Earth should've logically be destroyed by the clash between Arc-GL and the Mugann, which it wasn't. Environmental Destruction is really inconsistent in fiction, too, so I don't really agree with your point.'

We don't scale like that, simply breaching a part of a space-time, even if higher dimensional doesn't scale to that dimensional level, regardless of situation and it's usually treated as hax. False Analogy BTW, clearly the reason the planet wasn't destroyed because it's 5-A power on a concentrated level but this instance is literally hax. Mind you, to be higher dimensional, you have to either

1) Be relative to that dimension

2) Can significantly effect that dimensional level (Via Destruction, Creation or Controlling; Limited scale doesn't count)

3) Scale to someone who does, which in this case does apply but not to Arc Lagnn