Talk:Giygas/@comment-30403861-20190503185647/@comment-30403861-20190504162551

You're right that I should've made a content revision thread, sorry about that. Regardless though, I'm glad we agree on my first point.

Again, assuming Giygas to be 2-B based off of a Low 2-C being unable to comprehend them is unreasonable. Possible? Yes. But with Vs battles we always take the low end assumption to avoid unreasonably upscaling characters. I am much more comfortable with the idea that Giygas is a high end Low 2-C, being incomprehensible to a Low 2-C doesn't necessarily make him higher because as I said, the bounds are unquantifiable.

"People who aren't even psychics exist in magicant, and the fact that they do implies that each person has their own magicant" Um... no? Everyone that exists in Ness' mind are just physical manifestations of his memories, I fail to see how this implies everyone else has a magicant. Also, magicants should only be considered to be Low 2-C if they are explicitly stated to have their own spacetime. Ness' magicant is very clearly its own universe, which is only further supported by the existence of stars and planets. Maria's magicant is much smaller, only shown to be 7-A through its size, and never stated to have its own spacetime separate to the rest of the universe. We don't have any standard for what a magicant should be, nor do we even know who is capable of creating one (even saying that all psychics have magicants is too much of an assumption because nothing supports this, even if is a believable idea), so for the sake of argument only Ness, Maria, and possibly Giygas should be capable of creating magicants, the former two because they've done so and Giygas because there really isn't a good explanation for the jump in tier from Mother 1 to Mother 2. The idea that literally everyone has a magicant is only supported by that one translated line of dialogue, which itself is extremely vague, so I really don't see why we should take it at face value.