User blog:SuperBearNeo X/Masadavere 1-A Justifications

Cosmology & Mechanics
Before we dive into the power of Masadaverse, one important piece of information we have to go over is the very cosmology of Masadaverse, which kinda is a necessity to assessing the power that the verse has. Alongside that, we also have to go into the mechanics of the verse (I.E Taiyoku and Aztiluth)

The Throne (The Multiverse/Lower Level)
In Shinzo Banzo, it's established that Masadaverse not only has parallel universes (Which were mentioned in Dies Irae), but an infinity of alternate universes, that were made real as a result of Mercurius's law. So basically this means at bare minimum Dies Irae has a 2-A Cosmology https://pastebin.com/sd5emHuR https://pastebin.com/VhGih3TB

This is also further stated in Kajiri Kamui Kagura. Where Shiori literally uses an attack that revolves around using possibilities. Of which in the context is stated to be infinite, further enforcing the idea of Infinite Universes The Multiverse even possesses a 24-Dimensional Space. Given that Yako Madara can create a barrier that reaches into the 24th Dimension. https://i.gyazo.com/9e78bff8c53db863c7992b334deaf905.jpg ^ Not the full translation. But the most important part that was translated. As shown above, the term universe and multiverse are used interchangeably
 * "Before that striking blow, any reason does not make sense. The possibility of existence of infinite number is brought together, and the thing called Kekku purple weave itself is painted by the law of toxin."
 * "Dimensional dislocation reaching up to 24"

The Full Extend of The Throne
The Throne itself is a construct that encompass an infinity of concepts (Aka all concepts). Which means every single concept exists and can potentially exist, also exists in the throne in some form https://imgur.com/a/matrP Furthermore, the idea of laws are what governs concepts. Whether it be simple or complex. Which further enforces the idea that all concepts you can imagine are existent within Masadaverse https://plus.google.com/photos/photo/112482584546362389855/6579006979923509250?sqid=111917685329415071041&ssid=74178ba3-9717-4cb0-838d-67f343dbf0b8 ^ These two things will come into play later. When explaining Hadou & Gadou Gods

Taikyoku
Taikyoku, simply put, is the Supreme Ultimate, the source of all of existence. In Taoist teachings, it's even the source of Yin and Yang. The concept is pretty much identical in Shinza. Taikyoku is the power of Gods in this universe. Hadou Gods, whose Taikyoku flows outwards from themselves, instead of generating an internal universe, are the source of what is perceived in Shinza as "reality". They are the sources of all phenomena, souls, and concepts. And now we go for something from the VNs itself, from KKK in particular. This is part of Yakou's explanation of the concept of Taikyoku すなわちその世界における絶対法であり、そうした決まり事を定めた張本人を指す As Yakou tells us, Taikyoku is a Law which is absolute in regards to the World, and its nature is also enough to identificate its originator. Yakou tells us that a near infinite number of Laws exist in the world. For example, a blade carries the Law of "cutting" (aka the concept of cutting is attached to a blade or an edged tool), and fire has the Law of "burning" (concept of burning is applied to fire). However, he says all of these are "mere physics/laws of nature". Taikyoku is something else. The scale of Taikyoku is the difference between those "physics" and and a Law which can be called so. Becoming an independent universe (World) is the mark of true Taikyoku.
 * 太極とは何ぞやと言われれば、端的に法則と言うしかない
 * What is Taikyoku? There is no choice but to frankly call it a Law.
 * That is, an absolute Law regarding the World, the originator who determined this Law can be identificated.
 * 無論、世に法則といったものは無限に近く存在するし、それら一つ一つが太極というわけではない​​​​​​
 * Of course, in this World, a near infinite number of Laws exist, it doesn't mean that each one of those can be called Taikyoku.
 * 重要なのは規模、密度. その法を構成する単位が宇宙という規格であり、ゆえにそれのみをもって独立した世界となり得るものを太極と定義する
 * What's important is scale, density. The denomination of the form the Law takes is, by standard, "universe", therefore, getting to become an independent World is Takyoku's definition.
 * 何も難しい話ではない. 前述した水中の法が太極と化したなら、全宇宙が水底に変わるというだけのこと
 * It's not difficult talk at all. If the aforementioned Law that exists underwater were to change into Taikyoku, All of Creation's underwater areas would be changed.

Short Summary

 * Taikyoku is the ultimate source of power. It's absolute and beyond everything you can imagine
 * Every law and idea that you can imagine is just a physical aspect of nature. Taikyoku is completely independent and transcendent of all laws and concepts.
 * The Multiverse (aka The Throne) is simply a law that has taken form. Taikyoku is again completely transcendent and outside of this. As Taikyoku is beyond all laws (Which The Throne falls under)
 * Taikyoku also gives one absolute control over creation. If one with Taikyoku were to for example change a law that existed underwater, then everything that falls under the idea of water is changed

Hadou Gods
Hadou Gods are walking Taikyoku/Atziluth who defines their own boundaries, and they infinitely expands their desire until everything in setting has been subjugated to their law (integrated). They are the gods that encompass the throne as the next godhead. They main source of power derives from Taikyoku. Which as we explained above is utterly beyond all concepts and laws, with all of existence being nothing more than a law that Taikyoku itself is independent of. Hadou Gods are akin to walking multiverses. They themselves are living concepts and cosmologies that will consume one another (As they are unable to co-exist, that was until Marie's law manifested, allowing Hadou Gods to live among each other without consuming another's territory) Hadou Gods see the Throne (Which contains all concepts and laws) as nothing more than a tool. With their basic attacks being able to completely destroy the construct itself. Which shows their immense superiority to it. For those of you wondering where the Taikyoku values for The Hadou Gods come from, it originates from the Guidebook. Hence why when you read Dies Irae, you won't find it there https://www10.atwiki.jp/god14/pages/252.html
 * https://imgur.com/a/0XKT9
 * https://imgur.com/a/OWYii

Gudou Gods
Unlike Hadou Gods, are not affected by the surrounding reality or the Atziluth-Tai (Supreme Law) and instead changing the reality in itself, forming a Taikyoku universe. They can not take the Throne because they are self contained, but they are the ones who accompany the Hadou God of the new era. '''「念と念. 祈りと祈り. 渇望と渇望のぶつかり合い. お互い相手に触れもせず、睨み合うだけでも成立する. あ るいはこうした作法こそが、正統派の神座闘争なのだろうが…'''
 * 研究者、神それが発生しないので、それは、あっても単細胞生物の自滅因子と神の他互いにクラッシュの可能性であるため、ハドー倍に自己完結型で、共存できるされているため、全く相互クライはありませんので、ハドウ神と比べても低いです
 * Researcher, God Because it does not occur, because it is a possibility of crash between one's cell organism's self-destructive factor and God even if there is, because it is self-contained type and can coexist with Hado times, mutual mutual Because there is no cry, it is also lower than Hadow God.
 * "Just in case, prayer and prayer, crushing cravings and lusts, doing nothing with each other, just by staring at each other, or whether such a manners are the orthodox scholarly battles ..."

Short Summary

 * Gudou is all about the self, and their will is self centered and unified, Gudou Gods are far more unlikely to have an Apoptosis than Hadou Gods.
 * Gudou Gods fight similar to normal people. They must make physical contact in order to overwrite each other's laws.

Wrap Up

 * Dies Irae has an infinite Multiverse that extends all the way up to 24 Dimensional Space
 * The True Nature of The Throne is nothing more than a threshold for concepts and laws. With every concept you can imagine being existent in The Throne
 * Taikyoku is a force, that is independent of every law and concept. It's the ultimate source of creation and one who wields it, can change the laws and concepts of anything, whether it be simple or complex
 * All of existence is nothing more than a physical aspect of nature and is basically a law. Which Taikyoku is beyond and outside of
 * Hadou Gods are powered by Taikyoku (The same force that transcendents all concepts and laws)
 * Hadou Gods can completely destroy constructs that encompass any possible concept and law you can imagine, with there basic attacks at that
 * The Hadou Gods are walking multiverses and are abstract entities
 * Gadou Gods are the same thing as Hadou Gods except self-centered as opposed to focusing on all of existence

Why This All Makes Hadou Gods 1-A
It's quite simple. Not only are The Hadou Gods completely outside of and beyond any concept and law you can imagine (Including all of existence, which holds all ideas and physical aspect of nature that can be named), but they can remake all of creation with nothing more than they desires. In addition to that, their source of power is a force that is beyond any and every ideal and law. To be Outerverse Level, you simply have to be beyond the concept of dimensions, which The Hadou Gods are transcendent of (Alongside every other concept you can imagine)