Talk:Akasha's Explaination/@comment-30654492-20180405160822/@comment-31249698-20180411114432

> "Being above all theories and all dimensions in a verse where only 6 Dimensions exist certainly doesn't warrant 1-A tier and it especially doesn't mean Shiki can effect the concept of dimensions in any shape or form'

The Avalon Realm exists in the Reverse Side of the World, in which the World itself holds an infinite number of.



''['Upon the Earth, there is exists the hypothesis of "Adjacent Worlds." The World is not one; rather, like a reflection in a pair of opposing mirrors, it infinitely unfolds. Consequently, there cannot exist only a single future -- or so it's thought. In other words --']''

The Earth is just one of the insignificant structure compared to the universe itself, which exists in the higher structural level. The Akasha exists in Heaven, the highest realm, transcending the planes of existence that transcends and presides the material universe [that contains the concept of dimensions] for nearly numerous times.



● Deviating from the main argumentative basis in the blog post and arguing against something which only forms a small segment of it, and thus doesn’t refute my own argument in any way. Additionally, you’re argument further depicts denialism, continuously repeating an argument which has already been debunked within my primary argument. To put icing on the cake, you’re then shifting the burden of proof to me when, infact, I had substantiated this within my initial assertion and it’s you that’s failing to address my primary point - as it counters all claims you’ve made.

● You’ve showcased complete incompetence by failing to even partially comprehend a simple logical system which is weird by your standards and, as such, have debilitated your argument by defying logic - when it dictates that this is the case.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_logic#Formal_logical_systems)

'> Why wouldn't a NLF apply here when it's literally by definition a NLF. context doesn't matter since it's still a NLF no matter how you look at it'

"The no limits fallacy is the illogical idea that a poorly understood phenomenon can be extrapolated to infinity or assumed to not have any maximum value or threshold."

• No-Limits Fallacy is a fallacy that all of the Google+ users use, but they overused it and cause misunderstanding as well as inadequate uses. It needs an illogical idea that a poorly understood phenomenon can be extrapolated to infinity or assumed to not have any maximum value or threshold, not simply a "fallacious argument" in your eyes. Lol.

• Therefore, No-Limits Fallacy means nothing here, literally. I didn't make any assumptious arguments based on nothing, in reverse, it is you that make arguments without a proper argumentative basis that is well enough to overcome the scans of canoncity and challenge my claims.

'> That still doesn't warrant 1-A. It shows that Akasha is beyond the perception and understanding of others in the verse but not beyond the concept of Dimensions'

• Lmao. I'm surprised that you couldn't perceive such a normal logic. It's actually very simple, if the concept of dimensions were to be able to comprehend the Akasha, the concept of impossible would be erased.

"The Swirl of the Root (根源の渦, Kongen no Uzu?, "the Vortex of Radix" in the English localization), also known as the Root (根源, Kongen?, "Radix" in the English localization), the Akashic Records (アカシックレコード, Akashikku Rekoudo?), or occasionally, Heaven [...]"

"Seeing the Root, touching it and then managing to understand it will completely erase the meaning of "impossible", granting the magus what some would describe as "the capabilities of God". Needless to say, this is impossible for even the most talented magi."



"Heaven, or the heavens, is a common religious, cosmological, or transcendent place where beings such as gods, angels, spirits, saints, or venerated ancestors are said to originate, be enthroned, or live.'

Akasha is the metaphysical Heaven that is above all of the dimensions itself. Also, enough with the whole "concept of dimensions can comprehend Akasha' thingy. The scan only stated that the theories on dimensions only "said" there might be an Akasha. Take an example, we know and said there's a God, but can we truly perceive the Father? No.

'> As i said before...Nothing here stating Akasha itself is outside the concept of dimensions but merely exists outside The Multiverse itself. It's taken out of context to make it seem Akasha created the concept of Dimensions. Which they never did'

{"3 years ago When we speak about occultism, theories on dimensions say that there is a 'power' from outside this world. Pinpoint the beginning of all things. That is the dearest wish of all magi, the 'root', ... The place of God, Akashic Records, the records of the beginning and the end of all things that creates everything in this world."}

Oh my god, it's your third attempt to jump through context again. Akasha created everything in the universe, which holds the concept of dimensions itself.

> No...It's the reverse, your scan doesn't aline with anything you've claimed at all

• Are you attempting to use an Argument From Ignorance again? I said that the links in the blog posts has proven all my points. Heck, even the picture of Akasha in this wiki has shown that it created everything there is in the Nasuverse, which includes the concept of dimensions.



> "First off Fallacy Fallacy."

"A fallacy fallacy happens because true statements can be defended through fallacious arguments. Merely proving that an argument is fallacious does not prove that the whole entire position that it defends is immediately false."

(https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy)

• Incorrect use of Fallacy Fallacy. Fallacy Fallacy requires an actual propositon from both sides, which you haven't at all. Furthermore, the proposition I dictate is completely correct with backup evidence, which you haven't been able to crack since all of your points are an inadequate performance of Argument From Repetition.

> "Secondly, since when were the Apps canon and lastly no Shiki being transdualistic needs more to support than just that"

● I needn’t invalidate something that doesn’t uphold the burden of proof in the first place, Hitchen’s Razor asserts that your claim, either way, is invalid. Prove that the scan is invalid from any possible way you can get.

“the burden of proof regarding the truthfulness of a claim lies with the one who makes the claim, and if this burden is not met, the claim is unfounded, and its opponents need not argue further in order to dismiss it.”

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor)

'> It's a NLF by definition, as i said above. Just because something is confirmed doesn't mean it isn't a NLF. By this logic Saitama can one punch anyone at full power because ONE says so and ignore the totally fallacious premise.'

Huh? That's a horrendous argument that contains ambiguity in its own nature. It's a Slippery Slope Fallacy. Lol.

"While this image may be insightful for understanding the character of the fallacy, it represents a misunderstanding of the nature of the causal relations between events. Every causal claim requires a separate argument. Hence, any "slipping" to be found is only in the clumsy thinking of the arguer, who has failed to provide sufficient evidence that one causally explained event can serve as an explanation for another event or for a series of events."

The thing is, Saitama's condition varies nearly a magnitude of infinity below Akasha's argumentative basis. Akasha's condition isn't suitable for this situation as it is directly mentioned to transcend all of the physcial planes of dimensions itself, and resides ina metaphysical location in which no theories of Science can comprehend.

Throughout both of your analogies, you've failed to actually ascertain the situation - merely presenting an argument of ambiguous nature that even contradicts itself with the nature of Hitchen's Razor and Occam's Raxor. Thus any claim made on this front is equivocal - until you actually establish what's happening of course.

'> Don't be fooled. I'm down for 1-A Nasuverse but if this is what we got then i'm not riding the train '

'''Characters who exist far beyond the conception of Spatial Dimensions and exist within the realm of Metaphysics. Beyond all Science and Totality"''



All conceptions of dimensions and Science as well as Mathematics  cannot comprehend Akasha from any possible way. Heck, even the wiki states that not even the most talented human, the magi cannot comprehend it using any form of possible ways. It fix perfectly with our requirements for a concrete 1-A tier.  I am still waiting for your permission.