Thread:OBWforumsVSthreads/@comment-30654492-20190524182748/@comment-35308920-20190526201617

'''Zone Speed isn't a power up. It's an ability that can be used without powerups. The Stop Watch is however.''' Meaning yoshi cannot stop time for reasons i mentioned. Only slow it to a degree

But the op never stated if Yoshi had his powerups or not so I'm making them fight at their best (4-C wise). So the profile doesnt give yoshi his powerups. So you give yoshi his powerups. You are just assuming yoshi is going to pull the right powerups every time in this fight to counter cell and giving him abilities he doesnt automatically have access to.

'''Even if Cell can use his better, the fact that his clones make him weaker his going to be a problem. This is the same reason Goku countered it and likely the same reason he never used it again.''' Goku was already aware of the ability and its weakness. Yoshi isnt meaning it can be used as a distraction while cell charges a killing blow. Not a direct physical attack.

'''You tell me Cell can use projectile spam but yet we never actually see him do this. The only time he's used a ki attack was the special beam cannon.''' Frieza (who is a part of cell) used destructo disks to try and catch goku. Cell charged a kamehameha from the air

Which he did while standing still and Yoshi can easily just jump high to dodge it. Even though ive been talking about him catching yoshi off guard to do it

You are focusing on parts of my comment rather than looking at the full argument i am making

'''If Cell does stay in the air Yoshi can fly but he has insane range with his eggs. I also forgot to mention Yoshi's eggs have a homing attack.''' Again. This is not the point i am making. Cell goes in the air to avoid yoshi while he is on the ground and using zone speed or speed amps.

'''My point was if Cell tries to absorb Yoshi, he has two ways that will get him out of it. This is assuming Cell would even absorb him since he hasn't done so in the Cell games. And this is likely because he thinks he's "perfect".''' To be fair. You do have a point here. However the people he was facing were people whos dna he already possessed. There is almost no reason for cell to bypass the opportunity to absorb yoshis dna and gain his abilities.

'''Yoshi's badges allow him for the watermelons to spawn right next to him. He's never going to run out of watermelons. Yoshi's giant eggs should definitely be able to at least take a hit from the destructor disc since they're far more durable than his other eggs.''' The destructo disk allows a character like krillin to cut of second form friezas tail who is thousands of times more powerful than him. Yoshis egg is not doing anything.

You seemed to misunderstand. Yes, yoshi can use ranged attacks. But none of yoshis ranged attacks can beat cell and are easily avoided. Throwing an egg at cell or spitting seeds is borderline useless when cell can regenerate and fire blasts from many directions while having greater means to dodge. Simply having ranged attacks does not make you a better ranged fighter.

'''Yes, Tien used this to suprise others. Cell did not. He used it to try and overpower Goku. And I've already mentioned, if he ever does get caught off gaurd, he can just use a Super Mushroom or Metal Mushroom to counter it.''' Despite cell having the same knowledge, skill and experience as the fighters. All four of them teaming up on yoshi at once would equate to yoshi fighting cell at his fullest. If one cell decides to absorb, use the cannon or use the cannon, yoshi is a goner. And again, yoshi cannot use a powerup when being bombarded by clones.

'''Also about Yoshi's transmution. He only needs one good gulp and it's over. Nothing is stopping Yoshi from using his tounge against Cell.''' That is if yoshi is able to get to cell in close range and catch him of guard or land a lucky hit. There are plenty of ways cell can avoid yoshis tongue. There are fewer ways yoshi can avoid cells techniques.

This is assuming Yoshi just let's Cell charge up. As far as I'm aware he's only charged it up while being still but can only move once done charging. Destructo Disk can be countered with an egg or Yoshi can just dodge it with time manipulation and statistic amplification.

'''Yoshi not knowing a type of martial arts isn't going to do much of he's still able to get though fights without one. "Everything Yoshi has, Cell can counter" It's the other way around.''' He got through fights with people who are literally nothing like cell nor posses the same abilities or skillset as cell at all. Cell has both the hand to hand combat advantage and the range advantage

Cell spamming ki blasts can be avoided with gaint eggs, time manipulation, and statistic amplification that increases speed and reactions. Which is countered by extrasensory perseption, flight and widespread attacks. There is honestly nothing stopping cell from firing a full kamehameha at the place here and severely damaging yoshi, lowering his stats.

His absorption can be countered with mushrooms. Cell goes for absorption when the opponent is off guard. He isnt going to try to absorb yoshi when he is using a powerup. Making it meaningless. Unless you want to convince me yoshi can win while he is being absorbed

'''And his duplication isn't used for suprise meaning it will he easier for Yoshi to attack him with the power advantage. His abilities will only make Yoshi stronger giving Cell a more difficult fight. Because again, Yoshi is no noob to fights. He can certainly keep up with Cell.''' Being no noob to fights is not a valid reason for having comparable hand to hand combat. Experience =/= skill. Its like me saying mike tyson can match bruce lee because mike is good at fighting. Yoshi is good, but not good enough to match someone with decades of martial arts and fighting experience like cell has.

Cell was stronger than Goku and eventually overpowered him. Not sure what this is to but cell also has the ap over yoshi due to being closer to 4-B

Cell is smart yes, but if Yoshi can fight other geniuses like Kamek then he should be able to keep up. Kamek has completely different abilities and fights using magic. Please stop bringing up random characters that have nothing to do with the fight at hand unless you are bringing up a specific ability he has countered from a character that cell uses.

'''Yoshi doesn't even have to tire Cell out. If he uses Time Stop it's over as Yoshi can eat him and transmute him because Cell won't be able to move.''' Time stop requires a powerup he isnt listed to have

'''Even if Cell has more ways of winning, Yoshi's way of winning is far more effective and will end the fight in only a few seconds. Cell is going to have take his time with Yoshi.''' Cell has both more ways of winning and said ways of winning have a greater change of them happening. Yoshi only has the option of transmuting him and slowing time which cell has numerous ways of avoiding. Just because yoshis strategy would be quicker if performed properly, that does not mean his chances of victory are better. It is about who is more likely to pull off their killing techniques, not who takes more time doing them. Cell can strategically finish yoshi without getting transmuted regardless during whatever time it takes.