User blog comment:SuperBearNeo X/Refutation of Archie Sonic (Hax Edition)/@comment-43661855-20190829153641

The only thing I agree with is Abstract Existence. That would need more external evidence. However, I always believed Dr. Eggman was clarifying Sonic’s Fate manipulation, as Eggman’s concern was the same as Mogul’s, that he can’t beat Sonic. Two overpowered villains in the universe, each sharing the same inexplicable problem.

Since Sonic has never lost, the Fate manipulation still holds. Dr. Eggman with the Egg Beater may have “beaten” Sonic, but Eggman’s win condition was to kill/eliminate Sonic’s friends and family, leaving Sonic to be alone. That didn’t happen.

There are many moments like this in the comic’s run where, Sonic is put in a scenario that he should not have won but somehow, he survived and the villain threating him loses.

To say Sonic doesn’t have Fate Manipulation because Mogul was talking about himself isn’t a good debunk. Mogul could only talk about his own experience because he isn’t omnipresent, and hasn’t seen all the situations Sonic has been through.

I’ll say this. Sonic should have lost in Endgame. It was a clear win for Dr. Robotnik. But somehow, Fate decided that was the moment for Snivley to turn traitor to the mad doctor and made The ultimate annihilator to only effect Dr. Robotnik and no one else, not even Sonic, as Snivley knew how much of a threat Sonic is.

“Take care of both of your threats, your uncle Robotnik and the guy prevented your uncle from completely taking over the world. Erase them both from reality.”

Snivley is a smart guy and also wants to rule the world like his uncle. How could he have made such a stupid mistake that had a very clear answer?

How? Fate Manipulation.