Thread:SuperBearNeo X/@comment-35433743-20190525233827/@comment-30654492-20190526203655

MYHERO wrote: So I’ve done more snooping around and I have some more questions as well. Now for these, I’m going to ignore the whole existing beyond all concept points, as Vs Battle wiki states that an alternate way of getting 1-A status is by showing a qualitive superiority over infinite dimensions, and not just simply existing outside of platonic concepts. Now this doesnt mean I’m disregarding them as evidence. It just seems like both methods can be used to prove metaversal status, and I just want to focus on being qualitively superior to high 1-B.

1.) For the scans where Gore and Ouroboros states that the concept of infinity exists, Vs Battle Wiki treats it as mere 4-D.

“Multiverse level+ (Is the embodiment of both infinity and eternity, on a 4th Dimensional-scale as even the weakest boss of Strange Journey is a Universal+ entity)”

This is something you already brought up and said it wasn’t valid as YHVH was the one responsible for making it in the first place. Can you elaborate on what that means?

2.) Another thing that supports a quantum multiverse is the existence of Qualia space. As shown in the observation page. So since observation stems off of qualia, (“It is an extension of the philosophical concept of "qualia," or individual, subjective experiences.”) and YHVH seems to transcend qualia space, how come he was vulnerable to observation? The page for Observation on the Megami Tensei wiki states, “Likewise, YHVH only exists because of this shared observation.” Shouldn’t YHVH be invulnerable to it since he transcends qualia, something that observation seems to stem off from? Or is Observation a 1-A or above kind of technique?

Sorry if any of these seem like basic knowledge. I just got into the series and I’ve only managed to play Nocturne so I’m not all too familiar with this. This isn't a valid argument for YHVH because he created the concept itself. He can't be restricted to a certain level when the general concept of infinity spawned from YHVH. Ouroboros is the concept of infinity and eternity, but it's only on a 4th Dimensional Scale. This is why Ouroboros is rated as 2-A and not High 1-B, because he isn't proven to represent it's totality

Just because the phenomena of Observation stems off of Qualia's doesn't mean it's suddenly a Dimensioned thing, especially when it's consistently shown to work in dimensionless locations and on 1-A beings besides YHVH. A similar situation arises in Warhammer 40K, where humanity is what created The Chaos Gods. Likewise there, it doesn't dimish their 1-A status nor does it make humanity 1-A or the likes.