Talk:Son Goku/@comment-33949971-20180122092406

Only way people will actually buy Goku or Jiren being 4D is if its finally confirmed that they're stronger than Zamasu. I mean we do have statements already pointing that out, but some are a little more skeptical and require a direct statement, just so people know we did get a statement the episode before last by Goku that he's never been hit by such a powerful attack when Jiren mollywhopped him. This is important since he HAS been struck by 4D Zamasu's attack. Anyways, until it's stated or people start accepting the possible objectivity of them being 4D don't expect people on here to believe they're 4D.