Talk:Giygas/@comment-30403861-20190503185647/@comment-30654492-20190503224630

For one thing, you should have made a character revision and not make a comment on the profile

Addressing the points made here

'This profile needs to be revised. Mother 1 Giygas is not 5-B, being "a threat to the planet" is an extremely vague statement, and the furthest extent of "warping" Earth that happens in that game is inanimate objects becoming animated and hostile. Mother 1 Giygas should be "At Least Low 7-B, Likely Higher" scaling from the EBB cast, who scale to the other two games' casts (barring Low 2-C Ness), who scale to Thunder and Storm.'

>Okay, this seems reasonable. Looking back at the evidence, it's kinda vague itself and doesn't really give off 5-B at all

'EarthBound Giygas being 2-B is super wank. It is never implied at any point that Giygas is a threat to more than one universe. He is also never stated to be "infinitely superior" to Ness either, just that Ness couldn't harm him in any way. This still makes sense with Giygas as Low 2-C given that we have no idea how much bigger high end Low 2-C is than baseline Low 2-C (which Ness appears to be). x2 Low 2-C is not 2-C, because as with 4-B to 4-A you have to account for the distance between universes, because of this the bounds of Low 2-C are unquantifiable. Also, the idea that every person has a magicant is a massive assumption given only one translated line of dialogue would imply this, whereas Ness both creating a universal magicant and becoming one with the universe itself is backed up by a lot more exposition. Even if we do take that statement of people being universes literally, how do we know Ness absorbed their magicants? And if he did, wouldn't that make him 2-B and not Low 2-C? Magicants themselves aren't even defaulted to Low 2-C structures either, considering that Maria's magicant is only 7-A via size.'

>Second point i disagree with for many reasons. For starters, Giygas is stated to be beyond the comprehension of Ness and this implies that he holds power unfathombly high into 4-D scale. While yiu could say this is high end Low 2-C, it would likely be 2-B given that not only can Giygas easily destroy the universe but a being who's one with the universe (thus is a 4th Dimensional Being) can't even process Giygas

>People who aren't even psychics exist in Magicant and the fact they do implies that each person has their own magicant. Also it's not the same Magicant as Ness's as each of them are different and based on the being themselves.

>Magicants contain Space and Time, this would be Low 2-C as not only are they seperated structures but contain Space-Times