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so previously, I determined that Ren can negate Immortality up to type 8 and put it at that, however after looking some feats Marie herself has It would seem that it can go all the way to type 10 Immortality and True Godly. before that though I will get into why that would scale to Ren in the first place, as we know, Ren's Holy relic is the Margueritte Bois de Justice, which is literally Marie in the form of a guillotine in his right arm, Marie was born with a Curse that let her passively decapitate anyone around her, Anything she touched or anyone who touched her would be instantly decapitated as well. So the guillotine in his hand replicates this curse.

Now I'll just go over why Immortality negation up to type 10 and true godly is apt. Mercurius explicitly states that Marie is stronger than him. He states that She surpasses his Eternal Recurrence, also referred to as his Law Acta Est Fabula. In Her route there is a scene where Ren and Reinhard are fighting, with Marie confronting Mercurius, Mercurius says that her curse is something not even he could survive. Its stated that if she touched him he would be brought to his end, and heavily implies thatthe law he emantes would disappear as well, and hers would supersede it. This means Marie can Negate type 9 and 10 Immo and true godly regen. Scaling to Ren seeing as he uses her as a weapon. 