User blog comment:Auric Drake/Discussion of Monster Girl Quest power levels/@comment-32013951-20180712162926

Thank the god that someone reasonable finally came to remind me to make a justification blog for it, the last person to call me out on this didn't know english and ignored everything I said. Since i'm lazy playing the shit out of MH stories rn i'll keep this refutation short, but it should address some of these main points.

Mermaids are relatively weak physically compared to other monsters, going by their stats in MGQ: Paradox, so it can be inferred that most monsters are at least Tier 8 in durability.

If we go by in-game numbers, Quadruple Giga does damage in the mid 40,000s. One attack does similar damage (Tamamo's Nine Tails Funeral Pyre) and one attack does more damage (Seraph Micaela's Sword of the Heavens, in the 60,000s range).

Again, if we use in-game numbers, it deals damage in the 10,000s range, so it's less powerful than the above Quadruple Giga.

The issue with using in-game numbered stats to scale RPGs is that one would always come out with hilariously inconsistent results, and Paradox is no exception. If we applied these elsewhere, we'd end up with City-or-something-level Grangold King >= Spider Princess >>>> Adramelech from part 1 cause Spider P has way higher stats in her boss fight.

Another thing to note, I don't really bother scaling between the original and Paradox, mostly because the power difference between both is pretty massive. Enemies in the first Tartarus were already doing something similar to what Cherub Wormiel did in the VN, but better and on a wider scale. Imo the Paradox equivalents to the attacks >>> the VN ones.

Nero and Neris are among the more powerful charactes in the setting. Yet according to Nero, he and Neris would need to work together to destroy the Snow Continent, which is one of the smaller continents in the Paradox setting (MGQ: Paradox Part 2, in the Bird God Shrine). This indicates that neither of them are continent-level on their own, and hence most of the other characters must be weaker still.

The problem with this is that it kind of contradicts all of the high-end feats that get thrown around by people who they should be superior to. Going off this would mean Continent level > Nero = White Rabbit > Neris > Luka >= Part 1 Adramelech, which is really weird when you look at all of Adra's and WR's multiversal feats/statements and etc. Given the setting and story of Paradox I usually consider those higher-end feats to be more consistent in general.

Also thanks for bringing this to light, it reminded me that Nero's and Neris' pages kinda suck and ought to be deleted just because of how vague and weird they are. Plus they're probably some of the most inconsistent people in the verse and all that.

Looking just at the Luka page, he's given every ability that he can potentially obtain by mastering every Job and Race in MGQ: Paradox. This, along with other characters' potential to learn these abilities, is simply a gameplay mechanic inherent to RPGs. There's no indication that Luka canonically learns every weapon, every magic and goes through all the accessible races (the only ones he explicitly has as part of the story are Human and Angel)

Every angel race yeah, but not every race in general because he can't really become every race in-game. Anyways, at OB we include abilities like that for RPG characters as long as they're legitimately obtainable in-game and as long as nothing directly contradicts it. Kind of like how the SMT pages include things they can do with any skill they might be able to learn through demon whisper or otherwise; it doesn't contradict anything in the story and it can be done, so there's not really a reason why it shouldn't be added.

One last thing, Luka is rated so high mostly because his dimensionality scales to that of XX-class Apoptoses going off the fact that he's able to physically harm them and has been able to more than once. Having more dimensions on you makes you immeasurably stronger than even someone with just 1 less than you, therefore if Luka was only tier 8-ish he wouldn't even be able to physically affect the enemies he fights in Paradox. A lot of other people are rated similarly for similar reasons.