Thread:OBWforumsVSthreads/@comment-36466087-20190414212318/@comment-30654492-20190418075127

Juggerton wrote: @Neo

"Reverse Burden of Proof. You were the one who's arguing Youkai are immaterial phenomena itself. Okay, you never proven this to be true to begin with and as such, Burden is on you."

Dude I have proven my case here. You're still not done with yours beside a bunch of baseless speculations.

  "It's likely that they are behind material phenomena and not are the immaterial phenomena itself”

I am more pleased if you can prove that they are behind those phenomena, I have already proven my case with youkai being the embodiment of phenomenon so it's up to you to debunk that it doesn't mean literally. Otherwise it's an ad nauseum.

  "That doesn't really hinder my point, destruction of ones soul negates Low-Godly. You also need to prove Yukari can survive having her soul destroyed"

I dont need to prove that she can survive with her soul destroyed when it's explicitly stated that her mind is the core existence of her being. If you still don't get it, it's equivalent to souls but it's mind instead. See VBW, there're low godly regens from incorporeal minds.

"Nothing suggests Dimentio's opponents need a brain to be haxed. That's an assumption that is drawn from naught a single statement or shown instance"

I believed that nothing suggests that Dimentio can affect sentient brainless beings, it's up to you to prove so or burden of proof.

  "It doesn't matter what's described, that's never shown and all instances of Yukari's personality portrays her as lazy and unwilling to do anything beyond sleep. Nice cherry picking of statements"

​​​​​​Dude, this is ludicrous. Yukari's personality is lazy when she is not faced with enemy/ relaxed/ hibernating. It is the otherwise when Yukari is involved with someone who can erase space-time, hell, Yukari even will treat someone unknown very threatenly. I seriously prefer that you can provide scans for Yukari lazing around even when encountering unknown enemies >No Jugs, you didn't remotely prove anything. You are arguing that Youkai are immaterial phenomena when nothing suggests that. It's even more assumptions to assume they are literal, immaterial phenomena  (which isn't even mentioned on the profile, so it's null). Burden is on you as your claim is alot more absurd by Occam's Razor

>You didn't, you suggested Youkai can cause phenomena yes. Nothing provided here suggests Youkai are immaterial phenomena and the statement itself isn't concrete, so it needs substance  (which you or Knight never provided, so again, null and useless

>It doesn't matter what their core being is, they still have souls unless stated or proven otherwise. So in the end, you still have to prove Yukari can have her soul destroyed and be fine, which you didn't. You also didn't refute that destruction of Soul negates Low-Godly

>Yukari isn't brainless, so this doesn't need to be proven. Not that it matters because lesser skilled telepaths can mindhax Koopa's, who are explicitly mindless

>This isn't ever shown and is an assumption. Even in the games, she never exerts her power and no statements implies she is willing to. He'll that whole maclious statement is arguably against her character and is null as a result

>Yukari is only Massively FTL. Dimentio is Massively FTL+ (and high into such speed). Yeah, moot point, Dimentio snaps

>It's likely implied, everything points to Dimentio creating the Prognosticus. Hell, Bleck even worked with Dimentio because of the fact he matched the qualities of the book's creator. Also why wouldn't Dimentio use Fate Manipulation, he's cold blooded and relentless, he only ever plays around when he knows an opponent is weaker than him or he is inside his own realm, where he's much powerful